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 • Netroots YearlyKos convention is being broadcast live on the internet - we could do the same thing quite easily

Posted by youngmarxist at 2007-08-03 06:34 AM
OK, the politics are pretty bland at the YearlyKos convention - it's the right wing (that is, the pro-Democratic-party-at-any-cost wing) of the US anti-war pseudo left.

But the technical side is interesting.

YearlyKos is streaming some of the speeches from their conference live on Ustream.tv:

http://ustream.tv/channel/yearlykos-convention-2007

Right now I am listening to General W. Clark speak. There is a recording of Howard Dean's speech, and Senator Clinton is expected to be there, fresh from attempts to convince the anti-war types that they want to vote for her - if she speaks, no doubt that will be broadcast live.

UStream is very interesting in its own right - anyone with a webcam and a fast enough connection can stream live, for free, to the internet.

Worth poking around the site even if you can't stomach the pro-Democrats, to get some ideas of how this could be used.
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Posted by arthur at 2007-08-03 08:16 PM
I looked at a couple of clips (live not running at the moment). Didn't grab me. Wesley Clark speaking as I write. Way of speaking is clear and effective enough to distract me while writing this. If I was interested I would find the audio alone adequate. The talking head video showing lip and head movements and arm and hand gestures adds nothing for me beyond the content. His theme  seems to be stop talking about troop levels and focus on forcing Bush to defend his strategy. Actual policy proposal is pull 2 brigades back by Xmas because overcommitted and focus on Bush failure in strategy and policy. Deadline for setting a strategy, otherwise won't suceed. Close to total failure because Iraq won't be American satellite. Can still hope for functional state that doesn't become breeding ground for terrorists. Implication of continuing to fight the war under Democrat administration. Still got good applause for that. Could have picked that up much easier from an article except for the data point of a Daily Kos audience (described as Kossacks) applauding a speech implying finding a strategy for continuing the war. Reading article would only have got that it was implied very quietly with main emphasis for distraction on how badly it has been run and troops overcommitted now. No idea whether audience actually understood what they were aplauding.

Switched to watching for last 10 minutes question time. Video was still same Wesley Clark talking head throughout and brief questions mainly excuse for long replies.

I do find speaking and especially answering questions much easier than writing myself but am not a good audience for it.

Participating in panel discussions/debates via internet would be something I would enjoy and might reach wider audience listening to podcasts. Hopefully I'll have moved out of total isolation by next year and it would be good if there was something like that I could participate in. When we had Community Radio in Melbourne they weren't interested. Podcasting it might be still tiny audiences but not as demoralizing as negligible audiences to meetings.

Again, I don't listen to podcasts or radio at all so wouldn't know. Can hardly bear reading the stuff, let alone hearing it delivered with conviction to appreciate audience. (Haven't been watching TV at all). This, along with my general mood may have prejudiced me to be unexcited about potential of the medium as such.

If at some point we are going to get going, TV clips and then TV live would be a good thing to do afterwards.

Before any live TV we would need to be having meetings (of ourselves, excluding hostile participants. Podcasted meetings of ourselves and debates with others would be better before live TV.

Keza mentioned an idea of a takeoff of video clip for U-tube of the BBC mournful voice describing the latest disasters. That would be fun.

But we have to have a functional web site with content and audience and there is still no sign of us trying to do this. I'm certainly not, but just continuing to post desultorily at what's available after giving up on attempt to get a change as stated many months ago. It's up to the rest of you to work around the present situation and get somthing functional actually happening if you do want to. I can't/won't help until its there and I'd probably better stay out of discussions of how to get there given my negative/hostile attitude to the way it is until there has been some general agreement that this just isn't going anywhere.

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