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Posted by kerrb at 2007-03-24 09:49 AM
alan kay:
From our standpoint, the reason to teach "the new thinking" that has flowered in the last 400 years is not to provide more technical jobs, or to "keep our country strong", or even to make better citizens. These are all good results that are byproducts of the new thinking, but the real reasons have to do with sanity and civilization. If the maps in our heads are unlike "what's out there" then we are at best what Alfred Korzybski termed "unsane". Our definition for actual insanity is simply when the maps in our heads, for whatever reasons, become so unlike "what's out there" (including what's in other people's maps) that it is noticeable and sometimes dangerous. Since we can't get maps to be exactly true, we are always somewhat unsane with respect to the physical world. Since our actual internal maps are not directly sharable, we are even more unsane in relation to each other's mappings of the world including us. Because we think in terms of our internal maps -- a kind of theatrical presentation of our beliefs back to ourselves -- it is not too far a stretch to say that we live not in reality, but in a waking delusional hallucinatory dream that we like to call "reality". We definitely want to construct the "least false" version of this that we can!
- Our Human Condition "From Space"



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Posted by arthur at 2007-03-25 03:02 AM
Interesting download.

The (literally) delusional character of most people's views on international issues (on all sides) seems closely connected with the lack of any scientific concept of actually trying to understand and map reality. Politics is about ones "position" on "issues" without needing to really figure out whats going on - what the various forces are trying to achieve and what's driving that, how they see things etc.

The dogmatic approach to science education which Alan Kay criticizes as similar to dogmatic teaching of religion strikes me as closely related to the fundamental need for people not to think scientifically in order to function as wage slaves.

On the one hand they need some technical knowledge to be able to do their jobs and on the other they need to not think about society itself and their relations with other people scientifically in order to be able to accept that they "only work here" as something unchangeable commonsense rather than obsolete and changeable.

Actually learning how to think scientifically in a society based on exploitation would imply getting to grips with the actual map of social relations and how they have changed and will change.



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